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Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

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#571  Сообщение Milena » 02 июн 2013, 18:40

Ведущий CNN Пирс Морган беседует с Глорией Оллред и Томом Месеро о судебном разбирательстве между семьёй Джексонов и AEG Live. В поисках неопровержимой улики.



Пирс Морган: Мы говорим о неопровержимой улике в судебном разбирательстве Джексонов против концертного промоутера AEG. На суде были рассмотрены электронные письма руководителей компании, в которых речь шла о здоровье МД, о том, как он готовился к шоу незадолго до своей смерти. В студии адвокат Том Месеро и Глория Оллред. Том Мезеро числится в списке свидетелей. На суде глава компании Пол Гонгавер практически отказался отвечать на значимые вопросы. Том, давайте начнём с вас, так как вы хорошо знакомы с этим делом. То, как отвечал в суде руководитель компании, что всё это значит?

Tом Mезеро: Брайан Пэниш, адвокат, которого я порекомендовал Джексонам как лучшего адвоката в стране, чтобы он взялся за это дело, прошёлся на суде по электронной переписке Гонгавера. Мне сказали, что Гонгавер на суде прикидывался, что не помнил ни почему писал эти письма, ни что имел в них в виду. icon_wtf Он без конца повторял "я не помню". Как мне сообщили, поскольку сам я не могу присутствовать в зале суда, так как числюсь в списке свидетелей, общая картина такова, что не похоже, чтобы он говорил правду, казалось, что он уклонялся и увёртывался. А если это так, то это лишь нанесёт вред защите, так как они пытаются доказать присяжным, что от них не зависело состояние здоровья МД и что они не отвечали за действия его врача.

ПМ: Глория, это ведь ключевая часть этого разбирательства? Получается, что по этим электронным письмам можно будет доказать, что AEG не только знали о состоянии здоровья МД, что с ним происходило, но и планировали заплатили $150 000 врачу, который был там, когда он умер. И что это за тактика защиты такая, когда свидетелю советуют уйти на допросе в несознанку, при том, что имеются копии писем, которые предъявляют на суде? Нормально ли, если защита советует своему свидетелю говорить "я не помню" в суде при ответе на вопросы?

ГА: Проблема в том, что когда свидетель без конца говорит, что не помнит , что Гонгавер и делал, то начинает складывается впечатление, что он врёт присяжным. icon_yes Вообще говорят, что в какой-то момент присяжные даже начали смеяться над ним icon_lotsoflaugh , когда он стал без конца говорить "я не помню". А когда присяжные начинают смеяться над свидетелем, то это должно обеспокоить защиту, потому что это означает, что, по мнению присяжных, свидетель не заслуживает доверия.

http://edition.cnn.c...eserau.cnn.html
http://forum.myjackson.ru

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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#572  Сообщение Admin » 02 июн 2013, 19:36

tamaraki писал(а):А известно кто обнаружил?

Это хоаксы нашли на этом форуме http://mjjmaninthemirror.forumotion.net/
Они там тоже большое расследование проводят heyy
Но кто конкретно обнаружил - не знаю, прямой ссыли на пост нет.
tamaraki писал(а):И вот ещё думаю, если Кетрин угрожали, то почему этим не занимаются соответствующие органы, где полиция или ФБР

Вот этого я тоже не понимаю icon_question
В америке, даже если твоей кошке кто - то нечаянно наступит на лапку, хозяева тут же полицию вызывают, а тут такие угрозы и реальное вополощение их в действительность - и ничего....Очень странно icon_odd
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Да....пишут такое, что читать просто невозможно.... icon_disappointed icon_shooting
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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#573  Сообщение Trueamore » 02 июн 2013, 23:09

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... 3185.story

'This Is It' was to be Michael Jackson's final tour, AEG exec says

The “This Is It” concert series in London — which was to have earned Michael Jackson millions and served as a triumphant comeback — was to be the performer’s final tour, a ranking concert promoter testified Friday.

Paul Gongaware, co-CEO of AEG Live and Concerts West, which was producing and promoting the concerts, said the English capital was chosen for the shows because of Jackson's enormous popularity there. During a previous tour, Jackson had sold out 10 shows at the 75,000-seat capacity Wembley Stadium, Gongaware testified.

The plan originally was for 10 shows, but it was bumped up to 31 and then 50 because of the enormous ticket demand, the AEG executive testified in a wrongful-death case filed by Jackson’s mother and children.

Gongaware said he would have liked Jackson to have given even more performances at AEG's O2 Arena.

He said that at one point Jackson decided to do 31 because Prince had performed 21 concerts at O2.

Gongaware's recollection of events surrounding Jackson's London news conference announcing his first tour in more than a decade give a different perspective than the worried emails his boss sent at that time.

Gongaware said he was annoyed but not surprised when Jackson showed up a couple hours late.

“Michael really doesn’t like to do those things," Gongaware testified. "His schedules don’t always run like clockwork."

The tour announcement took place at the O2. When Jackson saw Gongaware backstage, "he came up to me and gave me a big hug and said, 'Make sure the teleprompter has big words. I don’t have my glasses.'”

Gongaware said Jackson did not smell of alcohol or appear drunk.

“He was good," the AEG executive testified. "I think he was excited."

But emails from Randy Phillips, AEG Live's chief executive and president, tell a different version. "MJ is locked in his room drunk and despondent," Phillips wrote. "I [am] trying to sober him up.

"I screamed at him so loud the walls are shaking," Phillips told him. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it is showtime."

In a previous interview with The Times, AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said Phillips had exaggerated in his emails and that Jackson's behavior appeared to be a case of "nerves."


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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#574  Сообщение Milena » 03 июн 2013, 19:29

tamaraki писал(а):И вот ещё думаю, если Кетрин угрожали, то почему этим не занимаются соответствующие органы, где полиция или ФБР,

Ну мы пока не знаем точно занимаются этим кто то или нет))) может бранка будет следующим? icon_oh_well icon_ROFL
я имею ввиду что в 2009 тоже никто не мог предположить что кондрата посадят (помните, беливеры зуб давали что его оправдают?))) и уж конечно никто в страшном сне не думал что на AEG подадут в суд и будет разбирательство. icon_oh_well
хотя я не верю насчет бранки... но уже не поручусь)))) icon_ROFL

К тому же в америке как бы свобода слова, обещали только обнародовать "нехорошие вещи" о Майкле. Физических угроз не было...

admin писал(а):В америке, даже если твоей кошке кто - то нечаянно наступит на лапку, хозяева тут же полицию вызывают, а тут такие угрозы и реальное вополощение их в действительность - и ничего....Очень странно

кошке на хвост - это действие))
уэйд помоему даже ничем не рискует особо....если не ошибаюсь на коммьюнити писали что возбудить дело о клевете там можно лишь доказав что эта клевета нанесла финансовый ущерб, повлияла как то на продажи... а доказать это будет проблематично мне кажется.
ему могут просто отказать в иске, ну или он проиграет дело.

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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#575  Сообщение Admin » 03 июн 2013, 21:38

Milena писал(а): на коммьюнити писали что возбудить дело о клевете там можно лишь доказав что эта клевета нанесла финансовый ущерб, повлияла как то на продажи... а доказать это будет проблематично мне кажется.
ему могут просто отказать в иске, ну или он проиграет дело.

Насколько я помню, они пришли к выводу, что возбуждать дело о клевете вообще не предоставляется возможным, так как по американским законам нельзя оклеветать человека, который мертв icon_scared
Milena писал(а):кошке на хвост - это действие))

А если записать угрозы на диктофон, и с этим пойти в полицию - они примут меры?
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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#576  Сообщение Admin » 03 июн 2013, 21:55

Paul Gongaware Declared Hostile Witness
Поль Конгуэр объявлен враждебно настроенным свидетелем

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The week wrapped up on Friday for Michael Jackson‘s wrongful death trial with depositions by AEG co-CEO Paul Gongaware. According to CBS Los Angeles on May 31 the prosecution declared Paul Gongaware as a hostile witness.
The jury has started to hear Gongaware’s side of the story now that the defense attorneys for AEG has gotten their turn at asking questions. According to prosecutors Gongaware appeaered more friendly when being directed with questions by AEG defense attorneys.
Gongaware testified that he was not concerned about Michael Jackson’s physical well-being or his decision to take painkillers during the “History” tour that took place in the late 1990s. Questions placed toward Gongaware by the AEG lead attorney was more geared toward Jackson’s attendance during the tour.
AEG lead attorney Martin Putnam asked, “Did Mr. Jackson miss any shows during the ‘History’ tour’”? Gongaware replied, “He only missed one. That was when Princess Diana died. He heard about the accident, went to bed, woke up, found she passed away and it affected him deeply.”

There was also testimony from the AEG executive claiming that he saw no proof of drug use by Michael Jackson while getting ready for his approaching "This Is It" tour.
Brian Panish, the Jackson family’s lead attorney, responded to Gongaware’s testimony. “He says a lot of things that are contrary to his testimony under oath in his deposition and in the court when I questioned him and now he has a completely different story. The jury will have to assess is he worthy of belief and at which points is he worthy of belief on.”
Brian Panish is working as a lawyer guide to assist the Jackson family through the legal process. Hopefully, they will have some resolution soon and wrap up this civil case.
Paige asked Panish how the Jackson family was holding up. “Mrs. Jackson is doing the best she can. She’s a strong woman. She’s a spiritual woman and she’s here every day and listening to the testimony.”
Gongaware is scheduled to take the stand again on Monday for the fifth day.

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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#577  Сообщение Milena » 03 июн 2013, 22:12

admin писал(а):А если записать угрозы на диктофон, и с этим пойти в полицию - они примут меры?

icon_idontknow сомнительно.
они ж не телефонные хулиганы чтоб угрожать по телефону)) или еще как то явно.
Хотя вот AEG в открытую заявляли что будут защищаться всеми способами, в том числе выставляя МД в неприятном свете. Это скорей всего по их законам непротивозаконно. Наверно.
Например, там же всякие сумасшедшие в том числе подают иски, их же потом никто ни в чем не обвиняет. А всякие бывшие типа спецагенты? Пишут книжки о всевозможных теориях заговоров, блин...какой бред только не утверждают с самым серьёзным видом...и никто их не привлекает за клевету. О, вот например о том что цру взорвали башни-близнецы...и чо? Свобода слова))))

Опять же если бы угроза была физической расправы, то наверно имело бы смысл заявлять. А так...они же обещают рассказать "правду"... icon_idontknow

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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#578  Сообщение Trueamore » 03 июн 2013, 23:02

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/03/showb ... ar_twitter

AEG exec: I didn't know Michael Jackson abused drugs

Michael Jackson traveled with what amounted to a mini-clinic and an anesthesiologist who used a surgical anesthetic to put the singer to sleep after shows during his "HIStory" tour, sources close to Jackson told CNN just days after his death.

But Paul Gongaware testified Friday that he never saw indications Jackson used drugs or traveled with a doctor when he managed that tour in 1996 and 1997.

What Gongaware knew -- or didn't know -- about Jackson's drug use is a key issue as the Jackson wrongful death trial enters its sixth week Monday in Los Angeles.

The co-CEO of AEG Live -- the concert promotion company being sued by Jackson's mother and children -- returns for a fifth day of testimony Monday.

The Jackson family contends AEG Live is liable in Jackson's 2009 death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

Gongaware was the top producer of Jackson's comeback concerts when the singer died of an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol. It was Gongaware who negotiated the deal to pay Dr. Murray $150,000 a month to be Jackson's physician for the "This Is It" tour.

Jackson lawyers argue that Gongaware should have known the hazards of hiring the doctor because of his personal experience with Jackson -- and his work with other artists, including on Elvis Presley's last tour.

AEG Live lawyers contend their executives had no way of knowing that Murray was using propofol to treat Jackson's insomnia because the singer was very good at keeping his "deepest, darkest secret."

"AEG knew nothing about this decade-long propofol use," AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putnam said in his opening statements. "They were a concert promoter. How could they know?"

Gongaware, under questioning by his own lawyer Friday, testified that he only became aware that Jackson was addicted to painkillers when the singer made a public announcement after his "Dangerous" tour abruptly ended so he could enter rehab in 1993.

He was a manager for the "Dangerous" tour, but only handled logistics and didn't travel with Jackson then, he said.

His job on the second half of the "HIStory" tour, however, carried more responsibilities and he worked closely with Jackson, he said.

Gongaware testified that he saw "no indication at all" that Jackson was using drugs during that tour. "I would be certain to notice it if that was the case."

Did Jackson have a doctor treating him during the "HIStory" tour, his lawyer asked.

"Not that I know of," he answered.

In fact, Jackson was "sensational" on stage, performing 10 to 12 shows a month, he said. Unlike in the "Dangerous" tour, he never canceled a show because of his health.

"He only missed one," he said. "That was when Princess Diana died. He heard about the accident, went to bed, woke up, found she passed away and it affected him deeply."

But an interview that Jackson gave to Barbara Walters weeks after Diana's death could help Jackson lawyers refute Gongaware's claim that no doctor traveled with the singer during the tour.

Walters asked Jackson about how he learned the news that his friend, the princess, had died.

"I woke up and my doctor gave me the news, and I fell back down in grief and I started to cry," Jackson said. "That's why the inner pain, the pain in my stomach and in my chest, so I said 'I cannot handle this. It's too much.

Jackson's statement that a doctor was at his bedside when he woke up the day of a scheduled "HIStory" show in Belgium is not the only evidence he did have a physician on the tour.

Dr. Neil Ratner, an anesthesiologist from New York, has acknowledged that he traveled with Jackson during part of the tour. He was at Munich, Germany, in July 1997 when a stage collapsed and Jackson suffered a back injury. It was two months before Diana's death.

Dr. Ratner declined to talk about his treatment of Jackson when CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta confronted him outside his Woodstock, New York, home in July 2009, although he did confirm that Jackson had trouble sleeping.

"It's really something I don't want to talk about right now," he told Dr. Gupta.

A source who was close to Michael Jackson told Gupta in 2009 that when Jackson had trouble sleeping that Dr. Ratner helped "take him down" and "bring him back up."

Ratner, who was convicted of insurance fraud and stripped of his license to practice medicine for three years in 2002, is on the witness list for the trial and has been questioned in a deposition by each side.

Debbie Rowe -- Jackson's former wife and the mother of his two oldest children -- will testify that she assisted in administering propofol to Jackson in the 1990s when she was a nurse, AEG Live's Putnam said on the opening day of the trial.

"She saw several doctors put Mr. Jackson to sleep in hotel rooms while on tour," Putnam said, including in Munich, London, Paris.

But Gongaware and others did not know, he said.

"The truth is Mr. Jackson fooled everyone," Putnam said about Jackson's propofol use. "He kept those who might have helped him at a distance and no one knew his deepest, darkest secret."

Jackson's ability to keep his private side private meant AEG executives could not see any red flags warning of Jackson's destruction, Putnam said.

"They didn't see this coming," he said. "They had no idea."

Putnam said Jackson family members -- including Janet and her famous siblings -- will testify about their failed attempts at intervention and their lack of knowledge about what was happening.

"If they didn't know what was going on, how could someone else think there was even a problem," he said.

But Jackson lawyers will argue that Gongaware, who closely watched expenses on the "HIStory" tour because it was losing money at one point, would have noticed spending on hotel rooms and fees for a doctor traveling with the tour.


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#579  Сообщение Trueamore » 04 июн 2013, 00:32

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 44m
Putnam asked Gongaware if MJ was comfortable with all the show dates.

"Yes, I went through all of the dates with him," Gongaware said.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 43m
Bugzee, the tour manager, had big calendar on the walls, Gongaware explained, saying they changed the dates of the shows four times.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 42m
As to the email about changing coloring on calendar so it didn't look MJ was working too hard Putnam asked if he was trying to fool MJ

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
"No, I was trying to make it clear, trying to get it just the way I wanted it," Gongaware responded.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
After changing 4 show dates Gongaware said MJ was comfortable with it. He would do 8 shows in July, 10 in August, 9 in September.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
There would be no shows in October, November and December, resuming with 10 shows in January, 10 in February and three in March.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
Gongaware said the O2 Arena had previous commitment in Oct-Dec of 2009 and they could not have the MJ's concerts.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
Putnam: Was this a rigorous schedule?
Gongaware: No, not at all

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 41m
Gongaware rcalled that on the HIStory tour they did 10-12 shows per month, from country to country, but this one would stay in London only.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m
Gongaware said he wasn't concerned with MJ's age. "He seemed great to me," he said, and this was stationary show, didn't have to travel.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 40m
Gongaware: The reason MJ wanted to delay the 1st show was he wanted more time to rehearse in the O2 Arena where the show would take place

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 35m
Gongaware said MJ and Kenny Ortega would decide the rehearsal schedule.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 34m
Gongaware explained MJ didn't have to attend rehearsals, since it was not part of his deal. He said they never require an artist to rehearse

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m
"I didn't have any expectation," Gongaware said regarding MJ rehearsing. He said that during the HIStory tour, MJ didn't rehearse, nailed it

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 33m
"When it was game time, he would show up," Gongaware explained.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m
As to the email Gongaware wrote about calling MJ lazy, he said he used unfortunate choices of words, Michael didn't like to rehearse.

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 32m
Putnam: Why weren't you concerned?
Gongaware: When the house lights would go up, he would show up

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 31m
Talking about the elements of the show, Gongaware described what they wanted to do for the opening of the show.

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He said Michael would be dressed up in a LED suit, like a television, flashing on him brief movie about things that happened in history.

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Michael would be lower down onto the stage, Gongaware described. He called the LED suit a "Moon man" suit, but Ortega called it "Light man."

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Putnam showed a presentation of how the LED suit idea would work. Footage is not on TII documentary because it was early stages of prep.

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Gongaware said 1st idea was to make MJ float from the audience, but they couldn't make it work. So they decided to lower him down on

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Gongaware said the big screen on the back of the stage was 3D capable. The audience would be given glasses when they entered the show.

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The 3D songs would be Thriller, Earth Song and Smooth Criminal.

Email from Ortega to Gongaware saying MJ had big dreams for the shows.

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"He wanted to do biggest, best show ever, live show," Gongaware said.

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Putnam showed email chain from Ortega to Gongaware asking to make a deal with choreographer Travis Payne.

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Answer from Gongaware:
This is not AEG money, it's MJ's money so it takes a lot of time to get approvals.

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Defendants were trying to establish a pattern that all the money spent was actually MJ's money, not AEG's, just like with Dr. Murray.

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At one point Gongaware said he learned from MJ about doctor named Murray. "He came to me and said he wanted his personal doctor on the tour"

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Gongaware said he suggested to Michael to get a licensed doctor in London who would know the lay of the land, in case of need.

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"This is the machine, we have to take care of the machine. I want Conrad," Gongaware said Michael responded.

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Putnam: Were you surprised he wanted to take his doctor on tour?
Gongaware: No
P: Why not?
G: He had doctors before

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Gongaware said other artists take doctors as well, so he was not the only one and it didn't surprise him.

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Gongaware said he's been on tour before where an artist had chiropractors, but couldn't remember being in one with a doctor.

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Putnam: Did you worry MJ might have a health issue?
Gongaware: No
P: Why not?
G: He seemed fine to me, had a physical and passed

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Gongaware said the suggestion for London doctor was due to the cost; paying doctor full time was much more expensive then hiring local doc.

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As to MJ asking to take care of the machine, Gongaware said he understood it to be that every night MJ would have to do be ready to perform

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Gongaware said Dr. Murray treated MJ for about three years before 2009. He knew the doctor was from Las Vegas but said he was in LA.

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Gongaware said he then called Dr. Murray to work out a deal.

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Gongaware testified he didn't have MJ's direct phone number, would go through Michael Amir Williams, MJ's personal assistant, to reach him.

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Gongaware called Murray on behalf of MJ saying singer wanted to take him to London. "What do you want to be paid for that," Gongaware asked

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Gongaware said he thought Dr. Murray was expecting his call and was aware of MJ's desire to take him on tour.

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"He said he would need $5 million," Gongaware recalled. "He said he has 4 clinics to close, would lay off people, need $5 million for that."

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"It was ridiculous," Gongaware said about the amount asked. "It was a lot of money for something like that and Michael could not afford it."

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Gongaware said he responded that it wasn't going to work. He said this was the first time he spoke with Dr. Murray.

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After that, Gongaware said he told Michael Amir and Randy Phillips what the doctor had asked. He also told Frank DiLeo.

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Putnam: Would you be doing this if Michael had not asked you?
Gongaware: No

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Putnam: Did you contemplate bringing a doctor on tour?
Gongaware: I didn't think he needed one, we didn't have one in History, he was fine

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Gongaware said he called Michael Amir Williams to report back to MJ what the doctor had asked to go on tour.

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"We couldn't afford it," Gongaware said. He spoke with Phillips and called Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time.

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Gongaware said a lot of people who wanted to work for MJ asked for huge sums of money, thinking he had a lot.

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"He was Michael's doctor, Michael wanted him. That was it," Gongaware said.

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Putnam: Did you think about checking the doctor?
Gongaware: No
P: Why not?
G: He was Michael's doctor

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" I'm not going to tell Michael Jackson who his doctor should be," Gongaware explained.

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Gongaware said he doesn't think a doctor's financial situation has anything to do with being an ethical doctor.

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Gongaware said it never crossed his mind to either do a background check on Dr. Murray or to suggest to anyone to do it.

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"I just expect doctors to be ethical, the financial side of their lives shouldn't have impact on their medical decision," Gongaware opined.


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Re: Кэтрин Джексон против AEG Live

#580  Сообщение Lina » 04 июн 2013, 07:23

admin писал(а):
Milena писал(а): на коммьюнити писали что возбудить дело о клевете там можно лишь доказав что эта клевета нанесла финансовый ущерб, повлияла как то на продажи... а доказать это будет проблематично мне кажется.
ему могут просто отказать в иске, ну или он проиграет дело.

Насколько я помню, они пришли к выводу, что возбуждать дело о клевете вообще не предоставляется возможным, так как по американским законам нельзя оклеветать человека, который мертв icon_scared

Интересные законы у американцев. Значит клеветой не считаются распространяемые гадости на человека, который мертв, а предъявить претензии на энное количество долларов к человеку, который мертв, можно? icon_shocked Лихо!!!!

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